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How poles are related to frequency response

I have recently fallen into fallacy, considering pole s=1 as there is infinite response at frequency 1. Yet, response was only 1. Now, can you derive the frequency response, given the poles? ...
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What are poles and zeros?

The concept of poles and zeros in filters was introduced to me during our lab (our lab isn't sync with our lecture) through the pole-zero plot generation of filters in MATLAB. I didn't get its ...
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What is the difference between natural response and zero input response?

I am new to DSP and was going through different responses of a system subjected to an input. My understanding of zero input response is: it is the response/output of the system when the input signal ...
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Nyquist plot interpretation when curve hits the origin

I'm a bit confused about the interpretation of the Nyquist plot when the origin is part of the plot. In this case I'm not even considering closed loops, I'm just looking at the Nyquist Plot of a given ...
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Position of poles and Stability in $z$ domain

We know in Laplace Transform, if the poles lie on the left of $j\omega$ axis, we can say the system is stable. Similarly can we comment on the stability based on poles position in $\mathcal Z$-...
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What is the relationship between poles and system stability?

I see two notions that describe the relationship between poles and system stability. But they are not the same from my understanding The system is BIBO stable if and only if all the poles are in the ...
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Filter design with zero - pole placement method

I have some question for you about Filter design. Α. Calculate the transfer function in order to stop the frequency of $300\textrm{ Hz}$ for sampling frequency at $12\textrm{ kHz}$. Use the zero – ...
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Transposed Direct Form II VS Direct Form II IIR filters?

I read in "Discrete-Time Signal Processing" Reference, in transposed Direct Form II filters section, that it implements zeros first then poles(unlike Direct form II which implements poles first), ...
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Pole Quantization Patterns in 2nd Order IIR Resonators

Background My typical approach to fixed point design for digital filters is to iteratively scale and increase quantization while comparing the fixed point simulation to the floating point design ...
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Why don't unit circle poles lead to infinite amplitude response for Butterworth lowpass?

This is probably a very stupid question. In many places (e.g. here), the Butterworth filters, e.g. lowpass, are described as being "allpole" filters, that have all of these poles on the unit ...
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Pole-zeros of a real-valued causal FIR system

Could someone please help me with the following question? Below is the magnitude response of a real-valued causal linear phase FIR system of order N = 6. Determine the location of poles and zeros. I ...
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Identifying the magnitude and impulse response from pole zero plot quickly

I have an exam next week and it's verty certain that a task of this kind will be there. Are there some good tips how to match the right pole zero plot to the right responses? No proof is needed in ...
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How to determine if a filter is bandpass/stopband from its pole-zero diagram in z-domain

How can we determine if a filter is bandpass or stopband, just by looking at its pole-zero diagram in z-domain? For exmaple, if we have a system with third-order pole at the origin and a zero on the ...
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Uncountable Set of Poles?

It is easy to define an (ideal) LTI system that would have an infinite number of poles - for instance, if the transfer function is $$ H(z)=\frac{1}{\cos(z)-1} $$ However, this would only define a ...
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Are all IIR filters unstable in nature?

I know this question has been asked here numerous times. But I am still unclear here :( My book says, A linear time-invariant system is stable if its impulse response is absolutely summable. (G. ...
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Is this system causal or not?

My efforts of solving this question are below. I came to a conclusion that this system is causal, since: $$ \begin{cases} w[k]+5w[k-1]+6w[k-2]=x[k] \\ y[k]=w[k]+2w[k-1]+3w[k-2]+4w[k-3] \end{cases} $$...
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What's the Q factor of a digital filter's pole?

For the analog S-plane, the Q factor depends on the angle of the complex pole $p$ from the horizontal axis, $\theta = \arg p$: damping factor $\zeta = \frac{1}{2Q}$, and $\zeta = \cos(\theta)$, and $\...
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Poles and zeros form of a transfer function

I know that a transfer function for a discrete-time LTI system can be written in the form $$ H(z) = \frac{Y(z)}{X(z)} = \frac { \displaystyle\sum_{m=0}^M {b_m z^{-m}}} {1 + \displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^...
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Why does this transfer function has a second zero

I'm learning about $\mathcal Z$-transforms in DSP and I have a transfer function of the following form: $$H(z)=\frac{2-3z^{-1}}{1-1.6z^{-1}+0.8z^{-2}}$$ When I calculate zeros and poles of this ...
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How to find poles of transfer function by looking at the step response?

How to find poles of transfer function by looking at the step response? Given a step response graph like such: How would I find the sketch for its poles on the complex plane? The only thing I can ...
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How do I go from LPC coefficients to a filter polynomial?

I've recently begun experimenting with LPC, and while I understand that it works, I'm still slightly lost on why it works. Specifically, I understand that LPC involves finding coefficients $a_1, a_2, ...
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Single pole IIR filter, fixed point design

We want to do a fixed point implementation of the single pole IIR filter: $y[n] = a\cdot x[n] + (1 - a)\cdot y[n-1] \quad ;\qquad 0<a<1$ What are the main design considerations to think about ?...
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Notch filter: differences between IIR and FIR filters

I'm trying to understand this great answer from Matt L. . It's said that "One advantage of IIR filters is that steep filters with high stopband attenuation can be realized with much fewer ...
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Poles and zeros of a transfer function

What are the poles and zeros of this transfer function (in $z$): $$H(z)=z+2+z^{-1}$$ and how would you approach the resolution of such problem? Personally, I would write $$H(z)=\displaystyle\frac{...
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Specify notch bandwidth by pole placement

I am trying to implement a notch filter by placing zeros and poles. I found in this thread how to specify the frequency to be filtered out (referred to as $\omega_n$ in previous link,) but it is not ...
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For a system to be causal, number of finite zeros <= number of finite poles. Why?

I read in this pdf that for a system to be causal, the number of finite zeros must be no greater than number of finite poles. Why? I know that for a system to be causal, $h[n]=0$ for all $n<0$. ...
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Finite length truncated exponential sequence $\mathcal Z$-transform, zeros over circle explanation

I'm looking at an example on how to obtain the $\mathcal Z$-transform from a finite length truncated exponential sequence, namely: $$x[n] = \begin{cases} a^N &\text{for} & 0 \leq n \leq N-1\\...
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A few conceptual questions about filter, pole, and bilinear

I am working on a school project on converting a 6th order butterworth high pass filter to digital filter using bilinear transformation. Just got a couple conceptual questions need to be clarified ...
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Is it possible to know the order of the filter, just looking on the pole zero plot?

is it possible to know the order of the filter, just looking on the pole zero plot. I know how to get the order of the filter using calculations(highest order), but I want to know is it possible to ...
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Group delay and number of zeros for a symmetric FIR system

I am studying for an exam and need help on a question on the study guide. The question is given below. A symmetric FIR system $h[n]$ extends from $n=7$ to $n=11$. a) What is the group delay? b) How ...
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What does it mean that a zero is slow?

I am studying control systems, and have encountered the definition of a slow zero. I am searching on internet and in books, but I don't understand the meaning this. I know that if a zero is too slow, ...
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Using all-pole filter to model the Room Impulse Response

Why is all pole model pretty useful in modelling room acoustics? Is it related to reverberation?
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Laplace transform : integral vs poles & zeros

If Laplace transform is expressed as : $$\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} h(t)e^{-st}dt $$ with : $$s = \sigma + j\omega$$ and $h(t)$ an impulse response expressed as : $$h(t) = Ae^{-\sigma_0t}\cos(\omega_0t+\...
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ROC of the function in the problem 9.14 of Oppenheim's Signals and Systems textbook

I have solved the problem 9.14 in Oppenheim's Signals and Systems textbook, but my solution and the one in Slader is different. Problem is given above. And Slader solution is here. I have also ...
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Nyquist Plot for transfer functions with poles at the origin

I'm learning Nyquist plots and something has been seriously bugging me when treating poles or zeros in the origin. Nyquist plots obtains information based on the argument principle which states "If f(...
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Who first understood the importance of poles?

Who first understood (or at least published papers on) the importance of poles in understanding transfer functions in the frequency domain? If I had to guess, I'd suggest Nyquist or Bode but I know ...
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Stability of system with poles inside unit circle - conflict with differential equation

I am trying to understand why a system with a single pole inside the unit circle is stable. For example, take a system with one pole at $z=\frac{1}{2}$. The literature says the system is stable. As a ...
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Is the inverse of a causal system also causal?

If I have a causal system H(z) and I find the inverse of this system: $$ G(z) = \frac{1}{H(z)} $$ Is G(z) also causal?
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determining type of filter given its pole zero plot

How can I classify a filter given its pole-zero map. For example I've got my zero's located at $\pm j$ and my poles located at $\pm\frac{1}{2}j$.
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Difference between repeated poles and distinct poles?

An important concept in dsp is marginal stability where we often see the term" repeated roots " or "repeated poles "? What are they? Does the term repeated means that two or more poles occur at ...
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which filters are these?

Location of poles are given in unity circle and 4 zeros are given at origin for every plot,How to check which plot shows which filters? For the Option (C) i am doing like this I can write the ...
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What's the Q of a pole at the origin of the s-plane?

I'm writing a simple function in Python to return the Q of a circuit, given its poles. The Q of a system with pole p, can be found using $Q=-\frac{\left|p\right|}{2*Re(p)}$. Obviously, in a natural ...
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Butterworth filter poles

Hi, I'm looking at this textbook question and trying to get a better idea of exactly what its asking. For the processing to be real valued each pole would have to have a complex conjugate right? So ...
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ROC of $\mathcal{Z}$-Transform and zeros

Theorem: Let $$f(z) = \sum_{n=0}^{+\infty}a_nz^n$$ where $z\in\mathbb{C}$. If $f(z_0)$ exists for some $z_0\in\mathbb{C}$ then it converges for all $z\in\mathbb{C}$ such that $|z|\lt|z_0|$. Proof: It ...
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Find a stable transfer function $G(z)$ such that $|G(z)| = |H(z)|$

Consider the following causal IIR transfer function: $$ H(z) = \frac{2z^3 - 4z^2 + 9}{(z-3)(z^2+z+0.5)} $$ Is $H(z)$ a stable function? If it is not stable, find a stable transfer function $G(z)...
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Conjugate reciprocal pairs of zeros and poles in FIR design

Assuming the impulse response $h[n]$ of an FIR filter is real for all $n$, Why are zeros and poles in FIR design found in reciprocal and conjugate pairs? Is the assumption necessary for this ...
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How does one calculate a pole-zero plot?

To my understanding, pole-zero plots are used to analyze or visualize transfer functions. Suppose there is some very simple system, for example a simple low-pass filter (so it is linear and time-...
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What is the reason behind complex conjugate pairs in Linear Phase FIR filter analysis from the Pole Zero plot

When we say that a Generalized Linear Phase System must satisfy the pole zero plot with the condition that a complex zero not on the unit circle exist's in a pair of 4. Then I understand that I need ...
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Laplace Transform: zeros and corresponding impulse response $h(t)$

Poles and the impulse response If our impulse response is in the form : $$h(t) = e^{-\sigma_0 t}\cos(\omega_0 t) \, u(t)$$ (where $u(t)$ is the unit step function) And its Laplace transform is : $$H(s)...
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Plane Settings of the Matched $z$-transform Method

I've come across that the matched $z$-transform maps poles of the $s$-plane design to locations in the $z$-plane. My question is, what is the $s$-plane and what does this mean? I'm aware that the ...
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