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### What is the "waterbed effect" in control system design?

I recently stumbled across some notes on the "Waterbed effect" in some notes by A. Megretski for an MIT course on "multivariate control systems". Here's an excerpt: A common effect, usually ...
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### Do we use closed loop or open loop information in Bode plot, Nyquist plot and Root Locus?

When analyzing a control system via Bode, Nyquist and Root-Locus, are we using open or closed loop information? I'm not able to understand when the poles of the open loop are used and when the one of ...
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### Is there a strategy for discrete control of a system with dynamics near sample rate?

I'm trying to control a system where the controller sample rate is physically fixed and the plant has significant dynamics on the same order as the sample rate. I understand that one would prefer to ...
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### Frequency warping when integrators are replaced with backward-euler and forward-euler integration

Resonant controllers are used in the power industry. The transfer function is $G_{res}(s) = \frac{K_i s}{s^2 +2\omega_c s+ \omega_o^2}$ The "textbook" discrete implementation is depicted in ...
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### Phase Locked Loop Basics

I am trying to better understand discrete-time PLLs. I drew a picture of a simple feedback system here: I want to be able to describe and understand the system at v(t) and y(t). I found a fairly good ...
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### Acoustic feedback detection algorithm

I am woking on an sound processing application where I have limited processing resources. I need to be able to detect acoustic feedback and then signal that such an event occurred. I am not concerned ...
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### Is there any solution for this bandpass feedback overload problem (besides increasing sample rate)?

I have been working on a physical modeling string (eg. guitar/piano) synthesizer which is nearing completion. It is based on a modal array of resonant bandpasses, where each bandpass is set by Q and ...
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### Does a RHP zero imposes some limitation in the time domain?

I am studying control systems and I have seen that a non-minimum phase zero imposes a limitation on the bandwidth, which is that the bandwidth has to be lower than the frequency which is half the ...
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### Is there an existing feedback elimination algorithm that can be implemented in iOS?

The project I'm working on allows a user to speak through a PA system with their iphone as the microphone. Unfortunately, the existing audio units in iOS don't eliminate the feedback between the PA ...
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### Introducing Feedback to Miller Puckette's Time-Domain Pitch Shifting Algorithm without Discontinuities

I've implemented Miller Puckette's time-domain pitch shifting algorithm (http://msp.ucsd.edu/techniques/v0.11/book-html/node125.html) in PureData's help files in C++ (my code here: https://github.com/...
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### Feedback Filtered-x LMS algorithm: question about theory

I was reading some of papers about the Active Noise Cancellation; in particular about the Filtered-x LMS algorithm, also known as FxLMS. It seems that classic FxLMS (also called Feedforward FxLMS) ...
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### Determine stability of feedback system from open loop transfer function and Nyquist stability criterion gives different results

I'm confused due to the fact that the Nyquist stability criterion and looking at the transfer function doesn't give the same results whether a feedback system is stable or not. When I have the system ...
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### DSP using audio IO from PC using C++

This is my first question on dsp. I am looking for something very simple here and I am sure there are libraries that will do pitch recognition and FFT but my requirement is very simple. I have a PC ...
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### Feedback stabilizes unstable systems?

Can feedback stabilize a unstable system?I guess so since we may get rid of any poles in the positive complex plane by feedback but I am not sure.
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### Did Dialup Modem use closed or open loop power/volume control? How did they determine Tx level?

I have been reading about dialup modems, but one thing I cannot seem to find out about is how implementers determined optimal transmit power/volume. Is this part of the echo cancelation framework? The ...
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### How can you see from the transfer function of a system that it has feed forward/feedback elements?

Furthermore, how can you see from the pole/zero plot if the system has feed forward/feedback elements?
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### Resample with unknown rate change

I am doing digital signal processing for a software defined radio. I have a signal coming in packets of data (several samples) at an average sample rate of approximately some known value FSin. I am ...
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### Allpass filter feedforward/feedback design and code

I want to design/implement a simple feedforward/feedback all-pass filter, and I am having some troubles and questions with it. From Shroeder design (based on J. Smith article here): I came up ...
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### Zero crossing count vs zero crossing rate: does it make any difference?

I am trying to make a feedback howling detection program for an audio DSP chip I made a very crude one by counting zero crossings, doing something like this: ...
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### Signal that destabilises a positive feedback path with nonunity feedback

I am just starting to learn about feedback systems. There are a few questions that have me stumped, this being one of them. Could someone please help? Thanks! Question: Find a signal that destabilizes ...
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### How can I correct the settling time when implementing a pre-filter (reference filtering)?

I have designed a controller for the speed of a motor, I calculated that for a settling time $0.1 \; s$, it works when I test it without pre-filtering. However, I need $0$ overshoot, so I implemented ...
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### Quantifying the frequency shift of a delay with LP filtered feedback

I am working at a Karplus-Strong sound synthesis technique where an excitation impulse is subjected to a delay with feedback and a one pole LP filter in the feedback line. The process is simply y[0]=(...
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### How can we do exact simulation for digital systems? [closed]

In digital control system, there are two basic techniques for finding the best digital controller. First, called the discrete equivalent, we find the continuous compensation and then discretize (best ...
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### Non-causal FIR filter in the feedback loop

I have a feedback loop with a transfer function $H(z) = \sum_{i=0}^{L-1} h(i) z^{-i}$. Is there a way to make this FIR filter non-causal? If it was a feed-forward filter, we could simply do so by ...
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### Calculate transfer function of two parallel transfer functions in a feedback loop

I have rational transfer functions: $$H_1(z) = \frac{ b_0 + b_1z^{-1} + b_2z^{-2} }{a_0 + a_1z^{-1} + a_2z^{-2}}$$ $$H_2(z) = \frac{ q_0 + q_1z^{-1} + q_2z^{-2} }{p_0 + p_1z^{-1} + p_2z^{-2}}$$ And ...
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### What does G(1) = 1 say about a system?

This is a line from a paper I've been reading: The static gain of the closed loop system must be $1$ ($G(1) = 1$) [...] First of all: I know what gain is, but isn't gain dependent upon frequency? ...
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### How do I reduce a block diagram with just a line as a feedback loop, I dont get how it adds K to the denominator

How do I reduce a block diagram with just a line as a feedback loop, I dont get how it adds K to the denominator. The bottom equation is supposed to be the answer.
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### Getting a single feedback peak from a basic 4 stages phaser

I try to set a very basic 4 stages phaser (two 2-pole all-pass filters), with a particular feedback path where only one peak is raised at center frequency when the feedback is above 0. The following ...
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### Why is my filter unstable and self-oscillating in this case?

I am using resonant bandpasses to simulate modes of guitar/piano strings for audio synthesis. While attempting to introduce coupling effects I have encountered a problem. I will illustrate with some ...
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### How to accomodate feedback bits from Base Station to devices in LTE or 5g?

I am trying to think of a way in which the base station (BS) can send say 100 bits of feedback to devices in my cell. My confusion is what is a good way to send this feedback bits. This is during the ...
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### To create feedback, does the peak to peak amplitude of a signal loop have to have an amplification factor (gain) that reaches zero?

In technical terms, feedback occurs when the gain in the signal loop reaches "unity" (0dB gain). How to Eliminate Feedback Peak-to-peak amplitude (abbreviated p–p) is the change between ...
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### Effect of delayed feedback on sinusoid of frequency corresponding to delay

Question: What is the effect of a delayed feedback path with nonunity gain G on a sinusoid of frequency corresponding to the delay? Plot the effective gain as a function of G. I think this will ...
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