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I am trying to get data from only 1 point of each rising edge and trying to relate it to 1 point of the sin wave at the same time. Ideally, the middle of the rising edge is where I want the sin wave data to be.

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Context: I am sampling a sinewave with a square wave in ltspice, but ltpsice over samples the data resulting in a bad FFT, and I only want 1 data point from each rising edge. That's why I am importing the data into Matlab to remove the unnecessary data.

Here is what I have tried as I am trying to figure out a general script for this.

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The pulsewidth function is spitting out an error and I can't get the middle point of the rising in relation to the time and sinewave. If there are other methods please guide me thank you.

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  • $\begingroup$ I believe the first error you get is about T, which may very well produce some incorrect (or not expected) result which propagates to pulsewidth() function and produces an error. Don't take my word for it though, this is just an idea, since I have never used pulsewidth() before. $\endgroup$
    – ZaellixA
    Sep 15, 2022 at 17:32
  • $\begingroup$ LTspice does not "oversample", it is a SPICE simulator at its core which means the timestep used for simulation is not a true sampled system, but an analog one, and variable, at that. If you really want fixed timepoints for the time-domain then you either have to perform FFT->IFFT, or export as .wav. There are also tricks in forcing the timestep to be sharp around the samples of interest, using a PULSE() source (similar to what you have there). But, if you want a sampled waveform then why not use Matlab/Octave, directly? $\endgroup$ Sep 16, 2022 at 19:52
  • $\begingroup$ Also, LTspice is not exactly the tool for ideal workloads, even if the primitive elements are ideal -- and that is because of its inherent SPICE nature. If what you want is precise and fixed timings then use Matlab/Octave/Python/etc, directly. $\endgroup$ Sep 16, 2022 at 19:54

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Here are two simple approaches that utilize all the samples to determine the result and work under much noisier conditions with a minimum error in the result. Both of these methods are significantly more robust under conditions of noise than any edge detection methods as they are using all samples, not just the samples in proximity to an edge.

First we need to minimize the error due to truncating the square wave at a non-integer boundary of the cycle rate. If the square wave is of high fidelity as shown in the OP's graph, this can be done by simply truncating the ending samples such that the transition from the very last sample in the graph is continuous to the first sample (if we put the graph end on end, there would be no discontinuity). If that isn't convenient, the other approach is to window the waveform so that the end points where the discontinuity exists do not contribute as much to the result, and we concentrate our efforts in the middle of the graph.

For example, using wfm to represent the square wave:

wfm = wfm(:);    # force to be column vector
N = length(wfm);
win = kaiser(N, 8);
wfm_win = wfm .* win;

wfm_win is used in each approach below to measure the phase between the square wave and a sinusoid starting at phase = 0 at t=0.

FFT Approach

Zero pad wfm_win to interpolate the time domain result, and then select the maximum bin of the resulting FFT. The phase of this bin is the desired phase measurement. The zero padding will minimize offset errors between the frequency of the maximum bin and the actual exact frequency of the square wave.

Phase Detector Approach

If you already know the exact frequency of the waveform and just want to get the phase, multiply the waveform by samples of $e^{-j 2 \pi f t}$ where f is the frequency. Take the average of the result (to low pass filter out the higher frequency) and then use atan2(Q,I) to get the phase of the result, where $I$ and $Q$ are the real and imaginary terms of the multiplier output respectively. The first approach and the second approach are identical, to the extent that the interpolated bin in the FFT matches the "exact frequency" as used in the second approach since this here would be the computation of one FFT bin.

Demonstration

Here is a Matlab demonstration of both approaches uses a waveform that visually appears similar to the OP's waveform, with a square wave starting at $t=0$ and thus the resulting expected phase for a sine wave would be 90°.

t = linespace(0,47, 1000);
wfm = square(t)';
win = kaiser(length(wfm), 8);
wfm_win = wfm.*win;
# method 1
out = fft(wfm_win, 2**18);   # zero pads wfm_win out to 2**18 samples
[val, idx]= max(out);
ph_result = atan2(imag(out(idx)), real(out(idx)))
# method 2
ref = exp(-1j*t)';
out2 = wfm_win.*ref;
ph_result2 = atan2(imag(mean(out2)), real(mean(out2)))

The result in this case was 1.5698 radians (89.944 degrees) for method 1 and 1.5683 radians (89.857 degrees) for method 2.

Plot of windowed square wave used:

windowed square-wave

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