# DFT of the same signal with different values of N

Let $$x[n]$$ be a discrete signal of 2 samples. We know that its DFT with N=4 is $$X[k]=[0, 1+j, 2, 1-j]$$. Without calculating $$x[n]$$, how can we know the DFT with N=2?

I have tried to use the relation between DFT and DTFT. Specifically, that the DFT is the result of sampling the DTFT in the frequency domain every $$\frac{2\pi k}{N}$$ samples. However, I don't know how to continue. I would really appreciate some help.

$$X_4 = x + x$$ $$X_4 = x - x$$

Now $$X_2 = x + x$$ $$X_2 = x - x$$

Therefore $$X_2 = X_4$$ $$X_2 = X_4$$

An alternative explanation is the following, if we were to decimate in the frequency domain by 2 (the 4 point FFT), you would incur circularly shifted Aliasing in discrete time domain. Since we started with a two point sequence then zero padded it to get a 4 point sequence, this decimation will result in Aliasing at those zero stuffed places leaving your original sequence non aliased. So say if we were to decimate more than 2 the sequence would incur Aliasing in time domain. So the fact that we are still able to have the original 2 point sequence non aliased after the decimation, therefore the FFT values of this 4 point FFT still carries the information about the 2 point FFT

Ex: if say we would have a 4 point sequence and you zero pad to get a 16 point sequence and take the FFT, now if you decimate the FFT by a factor of 2 you would get Aliasing in samples 8 to 15 of the time domain sequence.

Simple explanation:

Zero padding in one domain is simply interpolation in the other. Doing a 4-point DFT over a 2-point sequence can be interpreted as zero padding to 4 points. Hence the 4-point DFT is just an up-sampled version of the 2-point DFT and simple decimation will yield the 2-point DFT.

The N-point DFT corresponds to sampling the DTFT at frequencies $$0$$, $$\frac{2\pi}{N}$$, ..., $$\frac{2\pi N-1}{N}$$. Thus the 4-point DFT in question corresponds to the values of DTFT at frequencies $$0$$, $$\frac{2\pi}{4}$$, $$\pi$$ and $$\frac{3\pi}{4}$$. Now we are interested in the 2-point DFT which are simply the values of DTFT at frequencies $$0$$, $$\frac{2\pi}{2} = \pi$$. Hence, the 2-point DFT values are 0, 2