1
$\begingroup$

For two real valued signals $f$ and $g$ with their corresponding power spectral densities $|F(k)|^2$ and $|G(k)|^2$ Is there a way to get an intuition of how correlated $f$ and $g$ are just by looking at the power spectral densities (PSDs)?

For example does the fact that the PSDs of these two signals are so similar imply that they are cross correlated?

So far I have considered that $$|F(k)|^2 = F(k) \overline{F(k)}$$ $$|G(k)|^2 = G(k) \overline{G(k)}$$

and the cross correlation we want to find is

$$ F[f \star g] = F(k)\overline{G(k)} = G(-k)\overline{F(-k)}$$

and so it seems that there could be a way to get an exact result for the cross correlation from the PSDs, however I would also be happy just to get a hand wavy idea of if these two signals are cross correlated

$\endgroup$

1 Answer 1

2
$\begingroup$

No,

For instance 2 instances of AWGN with the same STD have the same PSD while being totally uncorrelated (Moreover, Statistically Independent).

Also, pay attention that Correlation is not commutative:

$$ f \ast g \neq g \ast f \Leftrightarrow F \left( k \right) \overline{G \left( k \right)} \neq G \left( k \right) \overline{F \left( k \right)} $$

$\endgroup$
7
  • $\begingroup$ Yes thank you, that's a mistake, I think this edited version holds for real valued signals $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2019 at 8:35
  • $\begingroup$ Leave the Math a side, I gave you a counter example why you can't infer much. $\endgroup$
    – David
    Commented Jun 3, 2019 at 8:41
  • $\begingroup$ I understand this but is this not a special case? If your signals are not randomly distributed noise (which mine aren't) surely the spectral composition must be an indicator. If you have a very dominant frequency sinusoid in two signals even if theyre out of phase that must imply some cross correlation since the two sinusoids themselves would definitely be cross correlated $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2019 at 8:44
  • $\begingroup$ If you have more information about your specific signals you may derive something. But in general no. Actually the Harmonic Signals are great example. Sine and Cosine will look the same but they are, again, un correlated. Phase is really important and probably you can decorrelate any signal using it. $\endgroup$
    – David
    Commented Jun 3, 2019 at 8:52
  • $\begingroup$ Not correlated, but I think that sine and cosine might be cross-correlated $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 3, 2019 at 9:02

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.